Measuring Maximum Activations in Open Large Language Models
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Study measures maximum activations in modern open LLMs across various architectures and training stages.
Key Points
- Global maxima vary by nearly four orders of magnitude.
- MoE models show significantly lower peak activations than dense counterparts.
- Maximum activation is tied to model architecture and training stage.
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~2 min readAuthors:Luxuan Chen, Han Tian, Xinran Chen, Rui Kong, Fang Wang, Jiamin Chen, Yuchen Li, Jiashu Zhao, Shuaiqiang Wang, Haoyi Xiong, Dawei Yin
Abstract:The dynamic range of activations is a first-order constraint for low-bit quantization, activation scaling, and stable LLM inference. Prior work characterized outlier features and massive activations on pre-2024 LLaMA-style models, and the downstream activation-quantization stack inherits that picture without revisiting it for the post-LLaMA open-model boom. We ask the deployment-oriented question: how large can activations get in modern open LLMs, and how does this magnitude vary across families, generations, and training stages? Under a unified pipeline (5,000-sample multi-domain corpus, family-specific tokenization, identical hooks across embeddings, hidden states, attention, MLP/MoE, SwiGLU gates, and final norm), we measure global and layerwise maxima on 27 checkpoints from 8 open families spanning dense, MoE, vision-language, intermediate-training, and instruction-tuned variants. We find that (i) global maxima span over nearly four orders of magnitude at comparable parameter counts, with Qwen3.5 and MoE checkpoints in the 10^2 to 10^3 range and Gemma3-27B-it reaching ~7 x 10^5; (ii) cross-family and cross-generation comparisons break simple monotonic scaling; and (iii) MoE checkpoints exhibit 14.0-23.4x lower peaks than matched-scale dense counterparts, while the residual stream carries the global maximum in 22/24 checkpoints. A lightweight INT-8 sanity check shows that measured maxima co-vary with low-bit reconstruction error via activation-scale selection. We conclude that maximum activation magnitude is a model property tied to family, architecture, and training stage - not a simple byproduct of size - and should be measured and reported alongside any open-weight release before low-bit deployment. The code is publicly available at this https URL.
| Subjects: | Computation and Language (cs.CL) |
| Cite as: | arXiv:2605.15572 [cs.CL] |
| (or arXiv:2605.15572v1 [cs.CL] for this version) | |
| https://doi.org/10.48550/arXiv.2605.15572 arXiv-issued DOI via DataCite (pending registration) |
Submission history
From: Han Tian [view email]
[v1]
Fri, 15 May 2026 03:31:51 UTC (1,196 KB)
— Originally published at arxiv.org
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